During his first few weeks in the White House, President Donald Trump confronted a series of leaks he said came from within U.S. intelligence community.
Many of Trump’s allies argued the disclosures proved the existence of a shadow government of ideologically-hostile bureaucrats scheming to derail his presidency. Other world leaders have made similar assertions, including Turkey’s President Tayyip Erdogan, who last summer clamped down on what he charged was a massive coup orchestrated by a “deep state” conspiracy.
Worldview teamed up with the Chicago Council on Global Affairs to examine if insider plotting poses real threats to elected governments, or if deep state accusations are just a political ploy.
During a live taping of Worldview at the Chicago Council on June 19th, host Jerome McDonnell spoke with Michael Glennon and Mike Lofgren. Glennon is a professor of international law at Tufts University and former legal counsel to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He wrote the book National Security and Double Government. Lofgren worked in Congress for 28 years and wrote the book The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of the Shadow Government.
Listen to the interview